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What's to come?

Postby Hells » Thu Oct 05, 2006 3:04 am

OK, so what with the DVD of Series 2 out now and with it's extra's, I feel we need this thread to discuss the possibilities of what's going to happen in the last ever episode *wipes away the threatening tear*

Now I had a bit of a GW marathon tonight and caught a couple of things.. The first being Holly telling Mac that MiniMac's real father is a secret, and then in the deleted scenes, Holly and Guy talking about their quick fling (where she tells him she thought he gave her chlamydia).

For some reason, up pops into my head.. "Guy is Mackenzie's dad.. dark hair before it was dyed, around the right time.." which would mean that Episode 9 could be:

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Caro and Guy
Mac and Caro
Guy and Holly..

End..

I really want a mac/Caro end.. I know Guy and Caroline are sweet with each other, but I really want a Mac/Caro end to make me feel better that true love does win out in the end.. *vomits*
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Postby smoo2 » Thu Oct 05, 2006 2:07 pm

:17: Ah, yes, it has to be CaroMac at the end. James Henry has said on his blog that the episode will be surprising (think that where I read it!), so I'm sure there will be plenty of unguessable action occurring! :jd:
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Postby chatterbox » Thu Oct 05, 2006 4:06 pm

Victoria Pile also says on the S2 commentary that they had to come up with ways to defer Caromac, so that sounds like confirmation to me that we should get our happy ending (Well I'm an optimist so that's the way I'm taking that comment!) :D

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Postby Rosie » Fri Oct 06, 2006 11:18 am

I'm in agreement that it's going to be Caromac rather than Guyoline - there are those references to Caroline being 'the one' for Mac throughout (e.g. Series 1 when the school children visit the hospital and one of them says 'She could be your one', then in Series 2 with the phone message that Holly deletes where Caroline says 'It's the one here'.)

But although I'm convinced they'll be the couple getting married, I just don't trust those GW writers to give us a straightforward happy ending - they'll be leading us up the garden path and then in the last 5 minutes things will all go very strange, I bet! :roll:

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Postby chatterbox » Tue Oct 10, 2006 3:22 pm

I read a report elsewhere today that episode 9 will be shown on cable in Australia on 29th December ...hopefully that means we will get it before then :dh:

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Postby minimarsbar » Wed Oct 11, 2006 9:58 am

On Jonathan Ross, Julian says he thinks it will be after Christmas when ep. 9 is shown.
I have held fast to my theory since 3/4 of the way through the 2nd series about what's going to be the outcome.
I know lots of people are annoyed at the thought it may all be a dream (Mac still in his coma) but I have a slightly different, take on it. Not all of it is a dream - the office girls etc. are real, but I think Mac is still in his coma, but rather than just having random dreams, he can't remember the accident and is sort of trying to make sense of past events in his life (in his subconcious). Take Holly for instance. The whole minimac story was ridiculous - the hair dye, his age being a bit wrong etc. I think he has always suspected Guy slept with her and his thoughts are muddled.
The 'business' with Sue White happened for real and the birth of the lion cub is once again his wonky brain playing tricks.
The Caroline and Guy thing is his subconcious playing out what might happen if he doesn't wake up. That's why every attempt to get close to her has failed in this series.
The bizaar ending of S2 (over the cliff) is him getting to the point of the accident, re-living it. The scene where we think he's been told he's dying is yet again, all in his mind.
In the special I reckon he will eventually wake up and we will find out what really happened. But of course, if Sue white did the deed with the turkey baster - that could throw a spanner in the works.
Anyone agree - even a little bit with my theory? :oops:

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Postby chatterbox » Wed Oct 11, 2006 2:56 pm

:gp: Minimarsbar, this is all a very coherent explanation, and I have to agree that the coma explanation would cover all of the many and varied weird points. My only query is whether it is actually too coherent for Green Wing?

I am very impressed that you have spent your hours of Green Wing obsessing in a such a productive manner. :D

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Postby Hells » Wed Oct 11, 2006 6:27 pm

I heard a theory somewhere that it was Guy in the coma and not Mac... The coma dream's put that off though.. unless Guy was dreaming about Mac.. *shrugs*
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Postby minimarsbar » Thu Oct 12, 2006 8:59 am

Once again chatterbox we are on the same wavelength (an age thing again I suspect!)
One more point I forgot to mention - I had a marathon dvd2 session with my daughter when she came home from uni last weekend and in ep1 where he suddenly wakes up and knocks Caroline out, something struck me (not literally of course).
He is unaware that he has knocked her off the bed, he just looks straight forward and says f*** I've killed a doctor. I took this to mean something happened in the ambulance and he thinks he's killed either Guy or Martin. he then lies down again and all is as I've theorised above.

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my choice of ending

Postby sazzie92 » Thu Jan 04, 2007 10:26 pm

sorry but definatly a caroline and mac ending
guy loves caroline sooo much i know
but mac and caroline have such good chemistry
and make such a cute couple ^.^
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Postby wallaby » Fri Jan 05, 2007 11:25 am

sob sniff.....so we got the lovely caromac ending we wanted and even a WEDDING! But i was honestly expecting sue to say at some point that actually she had fiddled his records and that he wasn't dying after all....but she didn't. And Caroline and the balloons at the end? strange, odd, and a weak ending i felt...like they had run out of ideas?

I laughed out loud at many parts, but sometimes it just felt that the scriptwriters couldn't be bothered - so much more could have been made out of the wedding, out of them getting together, the joanna/alan line just petered out (but ended in rather a sweet way, even though they were walking to their deaths supposedly) but there were some lovely clever moments, great performances. Like when mac proposed to caroline, faltered, then repeated it in an extremely quiet and emotional voice - sigh!!

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Postby Rosie » Fri Jan 05, 2007 11:51 am

I really loved most of it and thought the performances were very good. And didn't Julian look gorgeous throughout, but especially at the wedding?

I'd looked at a couple of spoilers yesterday (no will power, me!) so I'd already got used to the fact that Mac wasn't going to get a reprieve and just resolved to enjoy the wedding scenes, even though they were tinged with sadness.

As to Caroline floating off, someone somewhere else has mentioned that the first time we see her in Ep 1, she's sitting at the bottom of a ladder - so perhaps they were suggesting she'd come a long way since then! :)

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Postby smoo2 » Fri Jan 05, 2007 12:52 pm

Yep, I thought Julian looked gorgeous at the wedding and in his flowery shirt. We finally found out about the bananery kiss but he is still going to die. Gah! Can't believe this was true, although I want to see the extended ending on the dvd.
Overall, a funny, moving and sad episode which didn't answer all our questions satisfactorily, but this is probably best as it keeps our imaginations running furiously! I couldn't believe it when everyone coughed over Mac's first name!
Julian did seem to be smiling/laughing alot for a dying man, I couldn't decide if it was corpsing or intended. I suppose they all wanted to enjoy their last episode altogether.
When will he be in something else for us to feast our eyes on? :bawl: :lv: :lvdr:
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Postby wallaby » Fri Jan 05, 2007 2:53 pm

....and when can we see some clips? Am dying to see mac's proposal again - very touching with his quiet faltering voice!!

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Postby smoo2 » Fri Jan 05, 2007 3:44 pm

There are a couple on youtube - where Mac tells Guy he is dying, and the best man bit. Search Stephen Mangan and they should be listed.

All I need now are some excellent quality screencaps of Mac in the shirt and wedding suit. Swoon!

EDIT:Oooh, found some screencaps on GWLJ, thanks go to t aimer.
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Postby xpingux » Fri Jan 05, 2007 7:47 pm

Caroline and Mac cuteness!! *squee*

Julian looked gorgeous in the suit!
And when Mac cried :( :(
I felt so sorry for Boyce bless him! :(
And Alan and Joanna oh my goodness! :lol:


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Postby sazzie92 » Fri Jan 05, 2007 11:45 pm

can anyone tell me WHEN the wedding was screened?
i missed it!
and cant find it on any video places
oh DEAR GOD

or hasnt it been screende?
REPLY PLZZZZZZZZZZZZZ
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Postby smoo2 » Fri Jan 05, 2007 11:49 pm

The wedding was in the last half hour of the special, last night.
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Postby sazzie92 » Fri Jan 05, 2007 11:50 pm

NOOOO
OH FFS
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Postby smoo2 » Sat Jan 06, 2007 12:02 am

Eventually, my computer is showing the latest pics on JPG (GW set designer)'s website and I had to share this one of Mac. Phwoar!

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